soon new topical anti-inflam / muscle relaxor

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was at my monthly appt today and the PA I see mentioned next month she will be able to write a script for me for a newly released topical ointment that is an anti-inflam that also contains a muscle relaxor, and possibly tramadol.....   I currently use voltarin so she mentioned this one might be better.  Of course I forgot to ask if she knew the name so I could do some research on it....

Just wondering if anyone here has heard of anything like this coming along???  This, I think, would be so much help for me as it seems my major battles lately are huge knotted spasms in my neck.  I have had 3 trigger point injections in the past month to try and losen it up.. finally has started to release.

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No, I haven't heard of this yet, but please do let me know if you find anything else out about it. It sounds like it would be really helpful. As far as the trigger-point dry needling therapy goes...That stuff pulls like a vacuum (figure it out Tongue out). I've had it a few times and the procedure was extremely painful. The first round of it I did made me have these horribly painful spasms in my back and even worse ones down my entire leg when they did my hip. I only got them in my neck once but those weren't too terrible (at least for me). After the first round of 4 they had me take a break from them. My muscles were a little less tense for a little bit, but after a few weeks, they went right back to where they were when I started (Sorry if I hi-jacked your thread a little bit, just thought I could relate to you on the dry needling lol).

But yes, please do let me know if you hear anything else about that cream, and I'll try and do some research on the web myself.

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I have been using "Soma

I have been using "Soma cream" for years made at home with just Soma and at the compound pharmacy with ketaprophen(sp). I have also had one that had lidocane and diclofinac compounded as well as some others I can't remember for now. The reciepe for Soma cream is on here somewhere, I can't type much, one handed still and one more surgery in the set next week. I can't sit at the comp much right now and won't post from the blackberry, too much trouble. All I can say is not as potent as oral but good sight specific results w/o the side effects. I especially like it for my daughter, gives her muscle relaxation w/o any "benefits"lol. Bye for now still reading and praying for you all in my own way.

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Topical

pbn Pharma has this listed on their website, don't know if this is what she was speaking of though:

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Diclozepam™ Cyclofen™-Rx
Prescription combination of a marketed NSAID and a marketed muscle relaxant for the treatment of sprains, strains and sports injuries. Topical preparation that provides analgesic, antiinflammatory and skeletal muscle relaxant properties. Breaks the cycle of muscle spasm, reduces inflammation and treats pain associated with trauma to muscles and joints.

 

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I have not been able to find

I have not been able to find any further info on this drug other than the site posted above by celticgreenman - does anyone have any further info?  Thanks

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Just called my PM to find out

Just called my PM to find out the name and the PA left already but they left a message for her to call me tomorrow....   I'll find out the name and post it here.  It just seems this might be a great thing for many people, adding both anti inflam and muscle relaxor into one ointment.  I know the Voltarin works well for me because it's rubbed right in to the spot that is knotted up... 

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A cheap topical cream but that doesn't mean it doesn't work. :)

I would like to know the name of this too so am getting my name on the "mailing list" by posting here. Smile I've used a couple different topical compounds for my feet but am still searching for one that gives the best relief.

BTW, people can make home topical creams using cold cream and crushing either something like Soma or an opioid applied directly to the pain site. I assume you could use any other pain reliever such as Alive. Cold cream costs only 99 cents so it's worth a try.

I'm going to start a new thread with a link to the doctor who has written 3 free e-book on the subject of intractable pain where I read about the topical homemade creams in the frist place. His name is Doctor Emmet Tennant.

Blessings,

Angela

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Not So Sure About That

"Cold cream costs only 99 cents so it's worth a try."

It might only cost that for the cream, but you also have to think about the wasted meds. I'd rather not waste my meds on something that MIGHT work and it turns out it doesn't quite work. Granted, the way my rx's are set up is basically all maintenence meds to cover a baseline pain...and, my base pain after keeping a steady amount of my meds in my bloodstream still hovers around the moderate section of the scale. So I guess it might be worth it if you've got the meds to spare, but it wouldn't be so for me.

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Is this allowed here?

"BTW, people can make home topical creams using cold cream and crushing either something like Soma or an opioid applied directly to the pain site."

Not to rain on anyone's parade as the saying goes, but isn't this promoting altering, misuse of the delivery method and especially with opoids? This IS broadbased and by saying 'opoids' in general, it could also imply crushing an ER med such as Oxycontin. We all know, or should know, Pharmer does NOT condone this, correct? Apologies if I am way off on mentioning this, but it jumped out at me and not in a good way.

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On Dr.'s Orders

My experience was with MD's instructions and perscription to use both oral and as a cream as needed. Insurance would not cover it compounded and oral durring the same month so he increased the pill count and gave me instructions to make the cream in 8oz quantities as needed on a perscription so there would be no problems. Just wanted to clarify, nothing shady here.

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Transdermal delivery

Not all creams and ointments have the ability to trasport substances (medicines) across the dermis, so that it can be diffused into the soft tissues and picked up by the blood stream.

Medicines like the fentanyl patches, have specfic substances that can transport chemicals/substances transdermally. Not all creams/oitments can do this.

So, just mixing up medicine with any ole face cream, is not going to produce the intended results.

While there are some subsances out there that do this very well, and are advocated by many people as the best thing since sliced bread, they are not approved by the FDA for use in humans. So, I will not mention their names.

Just be careful when trying to transport substances transdermally, because the transporting substance cannot tell the difference between the good medicine to be transported and any contaminates on the skin. It will transport both of them.

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