Oxycodone / Naltrexone Extended Release

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Ivy
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Quote: People with pain more

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People with pain more than not fall into heavy addiction for various reason(tolerence, fear...etc, I am sure you can relate.

Grrr.......This is such an untrue and unfair statement. As a CP patient for so many yrs and being so very careful, I am dependant on my medication I am not an addict. Heavy addiction has nothing to do with pain management, but it is the person who had the problem not being able to manage both themselves or their medication/s. It is about responsibility.

I don't want to cause an arguement, but I have to disagree when I see such a blatant statement written as fact. Most people who take their pain medications for the proper reasons and as prescribed are unlikely to become addicts, but are grateful for the pain relief that we recieve, and do not need dēterrents ( Naltrexone) added to our medications, but, would not care if they were added as long as it did not cause other health issues or cost us extra money. 

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Dependence vs addiction

Ivy,

Wholeheartly agree.  People should make sure of the definition of words before using them.  Dependence, tolerance, addiction, and abuse are not interchangable.

cgm

 

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Butrans

Antisocial,

I am wearing a butrans patch right now it is a 10mcg patch, it is for pain and works great, However, yes here comes the However, they do not last the full 7 days, they take a good two days to get in system so I over lap, I put a new patch on about 4 or5 days then add the new patch in another area. One more however they are extremly expensive!!!! Even with insurence, but like I said they really work continually round the clock no pills to slush down, just slap it on, you can swim, showing etc...must be carefully with exssive heat. If you can handel all the howevers.....that is, I'm unable to afford so I'm switching to a study drug that seems promising-Oxycodone HCI /naltrexone which prevents abuse.

Hope this helped...again!

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Sorry

Sorry for the offence, I never suggested everyone with pain gets addicted, nor desires to misuse their meds, I simply stated I was glad that there is a deterant drug that is out for study. Those that abuse the pain meds we need to live quality lives make it bad on everyone.

Peace

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Relax

Ivy,

Relax if it don't apply to you, let it fly. I am an addiction specialist so I have seen wonderful law abiding decent people develop addictions. Mostly due to being newly treated by un-savory Health care "professionals" who over write scripts and over-dose decent caring people who just want relief. I am also a pain sufferer for many years so I understand many are not concerned about the "feel" of the drug but the relief. I get it. I really do.Foot in mouth

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I am quite relaxed, thank

I am quite relaxed, thank you. However, there may be people who stop in here and see this just once, and if they do I would rather they not leave with the idea that "People with pain more than not fall into heavy addiction for various reason".

So, if I see something written as fact that I know is fiction,and that might affect a person, I might feel responsible to correct the person, as I have been corrected in my own life and learned from it, others might do the same.

You might have taken your own advice and relax or let it fly. I find it hard to believe that a responsible addiction specialist would blame the health care professionals for the addicts addictions, instead of placing responsibility at the heart of the matter, the addict themselves.

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Yay Ivy!!!

You said:I am quite relaxed, thank you. However, there may be people who stop in here and see this just once, and if they do I would rather they not leave with the idea that "People with pain more than not fall into heavy addiction for various reason".

So, if I see something written as fact that I know is fiction,and that might affect a person, I might feel responsible to correct the person, as I have been corrected in my own life and learned from it, others might do the same.

You might have taken your own advice and relax or let it fly. I find it hard to believe that a responsible addiction specialist would blame the health care professionals for the addicts addictions, instead of placing responsibility at the heart of the matter, the addict themselves.

You are SO right, and It also bothered me that an ''addiction specialist'' spread so much misinformation, both about tolerance ect  and about pain patients being heavily addicted, and then as you said, blaming EVERYONE EXCEPT THEMSELVES. Why is it so hard to take responsibility?

Rock on, sister!

Melinda

P.S. After reading that, I am now...relaxed. LOL

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Hello all,

I am starting the "Kings" study of Oxycodone and Naltraxone at a clinical research center. On Monday morning I go in for a 3 hour exam. The instructions I have are:

"Plan on about 3 hours for your screening visit which will include medical, medication history, study-related physical exam and an ECG, vital signs, blood and urine will be collected for routine labs. Thanks and see you then."

I am pretty nervous and hope someone can help me out. I suffer from a degenerative spinal cord disease that is progressive and causes near extreme pain but sometimes treats me with days where my pain is less than severe. I love those days.

I have been going to a spinal/back pain specialist who openly admits he is conservative with his prescribing. I started seeing him in September of 2010 and he took me down from 120 mg of Oxycodone to 75mg believing that less is best. I am not sure as he is the expert but my pain dramatically increased ever since he did this to the point I can't go to the bathroom #2 unless I take 30mg of oxycodone which he allows me to do when I experience breakthrough pain.

As of lately he has tried to get me on the lowest possible dose but admits if it does not work he is happy to move me up until I can get at least a 50% reduction in my pain. Fair enough, better than nothing.

Here is my question and fear. If I participate in this Kings Oxycodone Naltraxone study will they simply go off my current dose of oxycodone. I fear it is not at the right dose as I am experiencing significant pain often which brings me to my knees.

I can't afford the name brand Oxycontin and therefore he has me taking 15mg 5 times a day with the option of taking 30mg one time during the day if needed.

Do study/research programs leave you at the dose you came to them with? Do they provide any breakthrough meds? I am so fearful I will go through being a guinea pig and be in more pain than I am now.

If you followed that novel great. Its 3am and I am in so much pain I cant sleep and my hope is an extended release which up till now I could not afford might provide a better round the clock relief. I have work in 4 hours and I can't keep this craziness up too much longer.

Any help, advice, etc. would be appreciated.

 

thank you.


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Methodology

testrunner,

It depends upon how the test was set up.  Before the study could get by the IRB (Institutional Review Board), it would have to outline all of these variables and their ramifications.  I doubt that a study could get by the board if it left participants in significant pain.

Call the investigators this morning and ask about how the study is set up.  Ask them the same questions you asked here.

cgm

 

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You might have taken your own

You might have taken your own advice and relax or let it fly. I find it hard to believe that a responsible addiction specialist would blame the health care professionals for the addicts addictions, instead of placing responsibility at the heart of the matter, the addict themselves

Beat me to it again Ivy.  Late to this thread.  BUt when I saw that, I was like WHOA!  No way.  Then a few posts later is identified as an addiction specialist?!?  Sure shocked me!