Just Switched from Suboxone® to Generic Subutex®

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Karbine Kyle

The computer just "dumped" a fairly lengthy comment about you and your comments.

I will summarize:

First, you are extremely intelligent and most of us here are as well. We are an asset to the community. We just need some help. Suboxone has been an excellent anti-depressant for me as well. I suffer from depression and anxiety (I take clonzapam for that). In the "old" days, depression and anxiety was so bas that I could barely even open the door of my place to the outside world. Going to work was extreme ???$*. I was so depressed and anxious that it felt as if I had a "bubble" around me and I would see in "tunnel vision".

I started taking opiates after surgeries and found them effective as an anti-depressant. Life was GREAT on opiates. But this is no answer. I called off the "pill-mill" days after a period of being "dry" led to severe thoughts of suicide. Suboxone is excellent as an anti-depressant for me as well as you. Maybe it is for others as well. Ive took many anti-depressants and they didnt work.

The cost of Suboxone and the doctor consumes over one-half month's pay for me. But to be able to lead a somewhat normal life is worth it. Id like to see the cost reduced or a generic version. Ill take your advice to my doctor and see what happens but I believe that big pharma has a "relationship" with my doctor and big pharm is concerned about profit only. I looked at Reckits's web-site a while ago and it highlighted a concern of a generic of Suboxone and fear of investor return decline. I imagine the company will apply the same inane tactics other drug companies use to renew it's patent on the drug as Reckit primarily is a household products company out of the UK.

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excellent

Kyle,

Your posts are excellent. Please see my post at the end of this discussion thread.

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Although combining an opiod/buprenorphine with a "pine" such as clonzapam or other benzopine is risky it can be done at reasonable levels. Problem is that "addicts" will stretch the rules and take more than prescribed and the risk becomes reality. The message here is dont take your meds to gain a "high" but take them to address the core problem.

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benzo's

im just curious kyle,do u get alot of relief from the restoril for sleep or do you take in the daytime with your klonopin for your anxiety.im RX'd 4 mgs of alprozolam for anxiety along with my opiod pain med and my goal is to eventually be placed on eiether suboxone or subutex.i rely on my xanax for GAD but if a dr. is not willing to write it(or any type of benzo)in conjunction with the sub,maybe its not for me.im VERY familar with just about every opiod pain med available except for the suboxone and subutex but i learn more and more from the great people here.i have a friend who is Rx'd 16mgs of suboxone daily ALONG with 1mg of alprozolam 2 x a day. i also have several friends who are on lower doses of sub and recieve klonopin so im wondering.my dr. says he will place me on sub whenever im ready but says hes not sure if i would get adequate relief for my pain from it as opposed to my current med.also,he's not said if he'd adjust(discontinue)any of my other 11 meds. yes, i did say 11....lol. there not all narcotics though. some people say the sub works GREAT for pain and some people say no. i need to know b/c the current er med im on and have been on for about 9 years seems to have lost alot of its effectiveness.any thoughts about the pain relief factor??   thxSmile

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slosippa

I took suboxone for awhile for pain management. For me it didn't help 95% of my pain. I got more relief from taking naproxen than the subs. I also have PTSD, GAD, and panic disorder and my Dr. had no problem continuing my benzo's while I was taking the suboxone. But you have to remember every Dr. is different, just as every person is different. So just because it didn't help my pain, doesn't mean it won't help yours.

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I took Ativan (1-2mg daily) and also Restirl (30mg at night) for about 2 months (Along with my Suboxone). I quit the benzo's cold turkey and the withdrawal was horrible for about two weeks. I did not have any problems taking the Suboxone and the benzo's together. Has anyone ever quit benzo's "Cold Turkey"? I was told that since I took the benzo's for only two months that I skipped a long term withdrawal. I hear that long term use of benzo's and at high doses can cause horrible withdrawals for 6-12 months. I could not imagine what that would be like and also hear that their is no drug for benzo withdrawal. Is that true? I do well being on the Suboxone as it really kills the opiate cravings.

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Generic Subutex 54/411 Buprenorphine

I hardly ever use a computer for anything other than to help myself find info so I thought I could try and give some back...  For anyone taking generic Subutex(buprenorphine 8mg 54/411) the cheapest way to get them is at your local sams club.  Sams Club offers a prefered pharmacy membership, which i have, and it will save you a ton of cash on your script.  To give you an example, the sams club where i live (Augusta Georgia) has the generic subutex and has the cheapest price anyways but with the prefered pharmacy membership my prices are as followed: 90 tablets of generic subutex is $288 but with the prefered membership the 90 tablets cost me $169.  These are the 8mg tablets with the 54/411 imprint.  Sams can also order the small white tablets that have an 8 right in the middle.  I think these come from a manufacture in England so they do cost a little more but if taken the correct way pack a true punch.  If you do get the small tablets with the 8 imprint make sure you dont water them down with anything, they will disolve with a dry mouth just fine and then you get the entire 8mg.  Anyways good luck to everyone, and if you dont have a sams club then try costco they probably offer something very similar in price.

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Ambiem and suboxone can be

Ambiem and suboxone can be prescribed at the same time but in more and more studies they are finding that the combination can also be deadly...A couple of times I did things that i didnt remember the next day. And this was embarassing and scary. I saw a video of me but naked walking around ....Be carefull

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gag6565,It's a well known

gag6565,

It's a well known fact that Ambien and like drugs cause activities akin to sleep walking, sleep-eating being very common.  Rep Kennedy was taking Ambien and phenergan, when he was stopped in Washington DC late at night, "on his way to place a vote".  Any patient given these medicines should be warned by his/her healthcare provider.  I don't believe it wass the combination of Ambien and Suboxone that was the culprit in your case, probably just the Ambien.

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A good laugh....

My wife takes ambien 2 or 3 nights a week. When she first started, she used to do the funniest stuff. One night she decided to bake a cake at 3 in the morning. Another time we woke up to find the milk in the cabinet and the cereal in the fridge. Another time she woke up in bed with a half eaten ham sandwich and a half finished text message wondering where I was.(I was sleeping in the bed right next to her.) Ambien definitely haas some weird affects on some people!