Just Switched from Suboxone® to Generic Subutex®

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recovinggold
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Suboxone Vs generic Subutex

I have been taking Suboxone for almost a year now to stop the withdraw pain and get off oxys. I have been doing great, I sneak an oxy pill every now and then but for the most part I'm almost done. I went from 20mg of Suboxone a day to 6mg a day. I too wanted to switch to the generic subutex because of the price difference. Its not going so well. I started taking my normal dose but it wasn't working, so I took more... and more.. and more. I'm now taking about 18mg of the generic and still not feeling normal. Its 3:00 in the morning and for the third night I'm not getting any sleep. I just want to warn everyone out there that it is not a smooth switch, and in my mind there is a reason that they are cheeper. I have not been able to get a hold of the doctor but as soon as I do I will ask her to put me back on the suboxone. The generic doesn't seem to be doing as good of a job.  anyone else out there share my experience? If you ask me STAY ON THE BRAND NAME its worth it. I should of known better, i mean, what works better, generic oxy "when they had the," or the Brand? 

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Is this us forum only, if

Is this us forum only, if ther are anybody from Europe let me now please?

 

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Switching is a little bit different, for me so far...

To be honest, I have to take the generic, because I can't afford the Brand. I do think the brand is a little better, because generics are always going to be less effective, but it depends on which company. I'm sure there's other companies out there that will soon be making buprenorphine, I would like to go back to the Suboxone®, because I'm used to it, I've taken it longer, but the Buprenorphine seems to work pretty well, so far, hopefully, there will be a generic Suboxone®, because that is what I need, but what I REALLY NEED is HEALTH INSURANCE!! Just to cover the medicine would be fine, not the whole exam, dentists, all of that! Just prescription price coverage!! If I had that, I'd still be on the Suboxone®! Hopefully, there will be a generic, and it will be just as good! That's what I'd prefer. I also miss the lemon-lime flavor... lol... Well, if I HAD INSURANCE, or just a cheap plan, I'd be fine... But, I don't know how... let alone where... That's my biggest problem, EXCEPT my panic disorder. It's so severe, I can't even work! I've even tried! I wish I could work! I'd give anything to be able to work! And my lower back is herniated in 3 places too, and I'm only 25 (26 in 4 days)... The back pain is NOTHING compared to the panic disorder I have! I need INSURANCE! Or SOMETHING! =(

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I know how you feel

You aren't the only one boss, I'm just 23, turning 24 at the end of February and I too have herniated/ruptured/bulging discs in my mid and lower spine. At most doctors don't want or straight up will not prescribe potent narcotics to people our age because of the risk for diversion and addiction abuses but luckily for me I found an understanding doc who is helping me. I too wish I could work though, sometimes the pain in my back is so sever I have to do a log roll to get out of bed in the morning. This doctor tried me on suboxone to see if it would treat the pain and also as an alternative to oxycodone based medicines and it did but not nearly as well as the oc. It's really tough being this young and not being able to work when you see all of your friends out in the world making money and you're relying on disability which is &*&? and you have to be in pain on top of that too. As for the person who was discussing the buprenorphine as an antidepressant they're a few articles online that actually discuss the potential for bupe's mood boosting capabalities. I certainly could notice and feel positive effects from the medication. And I'm not referring to "euphoria"  either. Suboxone is a miracle drug it just doesn't cut it for my back pain and it is ridiculously priced. I don't have any experience with the new generic version.

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Hows the Embeda working out

Hows the Embeda working out for you?Tongue out

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subutex

iv been takeing suboxone 4 about 2yr and it seems like it not working.if i change to subutex will it make a differance.i go to the doc tommorrow so if anyone knows if it will help me.

 

 

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iv been on 8mg for a 1yr its

iv been on 8mg for a 1yr its not working anymore.can u tell me why.

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Reply: Buprenorphine? Is It Still Working?

I'm not sure how Buprenorphine effects everyone. I wish I did. There's some advice I can give, that helps me. Buprenorphine seems to work the best right when you wake up, and also on an empty stomach. When I eat, the effectiveness fades away, so I dose as quick as I can before I eat something. Also, washing your mouth out with warm salt water helps, since bacteria will get in the way. Also, this is what I do: I keep my tablets sealed in the bottle, and I try to handle them as little as possible. I don't want to touch them. Keep them away from air and moisture. Also, keep the dessicant (SiO2) oxygen absorber in the bottle. Also the cotton, even though the generic Subutex® bottle doesn't have cotton. I do this sometimes: I take a very small amount of whiskey, (since the alcohol kills the bacteria), and sort of use it to "clean" my mouth, so it absorbs better. Don't drink while you take it. Your not supposed too, and I don't drink (well, VERY LITTLE in this case). You can just use mouthwash, but I would recommend using an alcohol-containing mouthwash. Make sure your mouth isn't too dry or too wet. Place the tablet under your tongue, and don't eat, drink, smoke, talk, etc. Keep still with your head leaned slightly forward. This helps too. Also, dose as little as you can, the more you take, the more of a ceiling effect it will have, which will cause more antagonistic effects. After the tablet has dissoved, and your mouth is bitter of course, and slightly numb, that's a proper dose. I've tried many methods, like breaking the tablet and placing it on two seperate sides under the tongue for example. I've even put a small amount between my lip (like where you put chewing tobacco). Speaking of tobacco, don't smoke before you dose or while your dosing, or for at least 15 minutes after the tablet completely dissolves. Also, tobacco has been known to decrease the effects. I have noticed it sometimes, but I can't say for sure. Sadly, I do smoke cigarettes. I hope to quit soon. I don't smoke [filtered word], or anything else. Also, just some other tips that seem to work, I keep my mouth bitter for a longer period. It x*#&s, but you get a good amount of Buprenorphine even after the tablet is dissolved. I'm pretty used to the bitter Buprenorphine, I've been on it for a while. It worked the best after I detoxed from Methadone, but then it wasn't as effective, but it was still working just fine, I just felt better getting off the Methadone for 5 years. It worked fine, it was just hard to get, and also, it stopped working for me. Try different sublingual methods. Talk to your doctor for advice. It can't hurt! 5 tablets "vanished" last night. I have no idea what happened. I think my mother came and took them. She took my Clonazepam last month. Now, I have no idea what I'm supposed to say to my doctor, if I even I reach him, and I have only 1 left. I don't want to end up taking other opiates in case I go through withdrawals! I don't know why if she did. She "lost" a lot of my scripts in the past... I just hope a generic for Suboxone® will come out, so I can at least try it, and compare it. Also, I was more used to that formulation, but the price is ridiculous! Unfortunately, things change, but there are ways to get around it. The first thing to do is not worry. That makes things MUCH WORSE! Keep a clear mind the best you can, and enjoy life the best you can, because it can be taken at anytime. Have a positive attitude. It helps, even for someone like me, who has horrible depression, panic disorder that's OUT OF THIS WORLD, a short fuse, and 3 herniated spines, at 26 years old. Buprenorphine does help pain (A LITTLE for me), but not as much as full agonist opioids, and it depends on how bad the pain is, and what type of pain it is. All I can say is keep away from evil and focus on bettering yourself first. No one else is going to help you, except you. It x*#&s, but you just have to hang tough. I wish I could help you all out more, but, I've only got 1 Buprenorphine tablet left, and it's the weekend, so I don't know what I'm going to do yet, but I'm not gonna worry! I refuse to worry anymore! Thanks for the information everyone! I will let you know more when I can! Take care! God Bless you all, goodnight!

- Kyle

 

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generic buprenorphine

I took subutex for a year and a half! I learned on this site that they had a generic but no pharmacy in utah carried it so they said! My doc wrote the script i went to a different pharm and they had them. and to be honest they work great for me and the price is so much cheaper so all i have to say is im satisfied $200 bucks for 60 w/out insurince is so nice Wink. I also take alprazolam 1 mg 2 times a day and 10mg of zolpidem (ambien). So im stoked saving money for the same affect is great I always was very weary of geneics but they all work the same so im good later gators!

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I'm Glad It Works For You!

I'm happy to hear that the generic Buprenorphine is working for you. I just wish I had insurance, because I can't work. I guess I could if I really wanted too, but it wouldn't be 8 hours! I was gonna go into the Marines when I was 18, but I started to feel panicky for no reason. I didn't want to think about it. Then in February, 9 years ago, I woke up to just another day, and I was never the same. I'm still not the same, but better. I don't know what happened. It's something I can't explain, and will never forget. My brain crapped out on me... Literally... I've never met anyone in person who has panic disorder as bad as I do... I feel sorry for people with panic disorder, I wouldn't wish that on someone I hate! I call it "Mind Cancer". I don't like talking about it that much, I don't want to trigger another one, AGAIN! Well, I'm happy for you! I just wish I was on my original dose: 8mg 2x daily, not 4mg (1/2) 2x daily of Buprenorphine. If anyone knows when a generic for Suboxone® comes out, let me know! Anyways, thanks for the help! Take care! God Bless You, and Goodnight!

- Kyle