need help with benzodizaphine equivelent dosages

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IVe been finding different results so I was wondering if anyone knew the real eqivilent dosage is of Aloranzapam(zanax) .5mg to clonzepam(klopin), diazapam(valium), loranzepam(ativan), and Clorazepate.

Ive found that .5 aloranzapam (zanax) = .25 clonzapam (klonopin) which is = to 10mg of diazapam = loranzepam =1mg and Clorazepate= 10mg in equivelance.

but Ive also found that .5 xanax= 1mg klopin = 5mg diazapam = 1mg loranzepam.= 10mg clorra

If someone could help me distinguish this it would be greately appriciated.

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check this chart.it is from

check this chart.

it is from the worlds leading authority of benzos

that link doesnt work, so i will just cut and paste the chart....

BENZODIAZEPINE EQUIVALENCE TABLE
(Benzodiazepine Equivalency Table)

Revised April 2007

This Benzodiazepine Equivalence Table is based on the extensive research and clinical experience of Professor C Heather Ashton, DM, FRCP, Emeritus Professor of Clinical Psychopharmacology at the University of Newcastle upon Tyne, England. Sources: NRHA Drug Newsletter, April 1985 and Benzodiazepines: How they Work & How to Withdraw (The Ashton Manual), 2002. The approximate equivalent doses to 10mg diazepam (Valium) are given.

For a discussion of half-lives and equivalencies see also the Benzo FAQ document.

Benzodiazepines1Half-life (hrs)2
[active metabolite]
Approximately Equivalent
Oral dosages (mg)3
Market Aim4
Alprazolam
(Xanax, Xanor, Tafil)
6-120.5a
Bromazepam
(Lexotan, Lexomil)
10-205-6a
Chlordiazepoxide
(Librium)
5-30 [36-200]25a
Clobazam
(Frisium)5
12-6020a,e
Clonazepam
(Klonopin, Rivotril)5
18-500.5a,e
Clorazepate
(Tranxene)
[36-200]15a
Diazepam
(Valium)
20-100 [36-200]10a
Estazolam
(ProSom, Nuctalon)
10-24 1-2h
Flunitrazepam
(Rohypnol)
18-26 [36-200]1h
Flurazepam
(Dalmane)
[40-250]15-30h
Halazepam
(Paxipam)
[30-100]20a
Ketazolam
(Anxon)
30-100 [36-200]15-30a
Loprazolam
(Dormonoct)
6-121-2h
Lorazepam
(Ativan, Temesta, Tavor)
10-201a
Lormetazepam
(Noctamid)
10-121-2h
Medazepam
(Nobrium)
36-20010a
Nitrazepam
(Mogadon)
15-3810h
Nordazepam
(Nordaz, Calmday)
36-20010a
Oxazepam
(Serax, Serenid,
Serepax, Seresta)
4-1520a
Prazepam
(Centrax, Lysanxia)
[36-200]10-20a
Quazepam (Doral)25-10020h
Temazepam
(Restoril, Normison,
Euhypnos)
8-2220h
Triazolam
(Halcion)
20.5h
Non-benzodiazepines
with similar effects1, 6
Zaleplon
(Sonata)
220h
Zolpidem
(Ambien, Stilnoct, Stilnox)
220h
Zopiclone
(Zimovane, Imovane)
5-615h
Eszopiclone
(Lunesta)
6
(9 in elderly)
3h

  1. All these drugs are recommended for short-term use only (2-4 weeks maximum).

  2. Half-life: time taken for blood concentration to fall to half its peak value after a single dose. Half-life of active metabolite shown in square brackets. This time may vary considerably between individuals.

  3. These equivalents do not agree with those used by some authors. They are firmly based on clinical experience during switch-over to diazepam at start of withdrawal programs but may vary between individuals.

  4. Market Aim: Although all benzodiazepines have similar actions, they are usually marketed as anxiolytics (a), hypnotics (h) or anticonvulsants (e).

  5. In the UK clobazam (Frisium) and clonazepam (Rivotril) are licensed for use as anti-epileptics only.

  6. These drugs are chemically different from benzodiazepines but have the same effects on the body and act by the same mechanisms.


all thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical advice. i am not a doctor nor a pharmacist. all medical questions should be answered by a licensed pharmacist, doctor, or primary care manager.
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Thanks dog. But ive still

Thanks dog. But ive still found other resources that seem to be credible that say that .5mg zanax=1mg klopin

and one that says .5mg zanax=.25mg klonopin which i dont beleive.  Are most f these comparison charts based on clincal studies or the actual comparisonof the  potency of the drug.  Im was perscrbed recently klopin recently, so I just started it and I took a 2mg klonopin one day and the next my buddy gave me a 1mg zanax and it seemed to have pretty much the same effect Id say no more no less. So thats why I wonder about the clinical tests because it seems that they vary.  

 all thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical advice. i am not a doctor nor a pharmacist. all medical questions should be answered by a licensed pharmacist, doctor, or primary care manager.

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different ppl have different

different ppl have different reaction's to different drug's idk about that particular report though i know i've found that the chart givein is pretty much right but i've nvr tooken klonipin b4 so i can't say homie i am prescribed valium and have also took xanax aka alprazlopam but anyway's peace hope i helped a lil man Laughing

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i took a closer look at the

i took a closer look at the chart it's clinical study's so like i was saying it could be said it was biased or it could be said it's the best one to read idk like i was saying though diff ppl have diff reaction's idk if they took this into account i'm sure they did u knwo like background check's addiction to other thing's prior drug abuse idk man it all depends i saupose

 

 

 

 

i also like most everyone else here am not a doctor anything i say or put an opinion on is strictly that an opinion

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Just look at the third

Just look at the third sidenote under the chart, which reads as follows:

"These equivalents do not agree with those used by some authors. They are firmly based on clinical experience during switch-over to diazepam at start of withdrawal programs but may vary between individuals."

 

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yea that's what i meant lil

yea that's what i meant lil bit sleepy and didn't wanna get way detailed but i read the whole thing b4 i typed that that's why i went back and said that i see ur in that oxy generic thing knee deep that mess is hiliarious man "i know for a fact" lmao

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Prof Ashton

Bubba,

I think you will findthat Prof Ashton, universally regarded as the world's leading authority on all things BZD, has the most accurat chart there is available. Where the heck did you read that 500mcg of alprazolam was equivalent to 250mcg clonazepam? That is ridiculous. The two drugs are almost exactly the same strength. One has a lesser heavy sedative action, but chemically and pharmacologically (and subjectively when you suffer the sort of 30+ year anxiety/panic probs as I do) there is NO DOUBT that a 2mg Rivotril is exactly as effective as a 2mg alprazolam. What may surprise you is if you look at bromazepam. The best brand is LEXILIUM 6mg. The chart may say that 5mg bromaz is equal to 10mg diaz, but subjectively, bromaz FEELS about twice that strength and is by far faster acting. also the quality of the period of total serenity and calm following my normal dosage of 18-24mg taken DURING an attack is the most beautiful and euphoric of all benodiazepines. Prof Ashton works with figures. Her primary concerns are the withdrawal schedules which she makes LONG and SLOW and always substitutes the long half-life diazepam for the shorter, more often-dosed, and more addictive short half-life benzos. What a chart can NOT show is the subjective experience and feeling of an individual. My script is for alprazolam which is invariably filled by Pharmacia's XANAX brand. But it is not a good drug for either long-term tranquillisation or for during an episode. It tends to feel rougher than either Rivotril or Lexilium but is a good preventative. The problem is the short half-life which means frequent dosage.

I am not certain for what reason you wish to know the difference between alprazolam and clonazepam but i assure you that there is little or no differenc at all between them in strength; only you can say which suits you best. And of course under what circumstances.

Looking at the chart you will notice that if you go to the withdrawal schedules, the most IMPORTANT BZD is definitely diazepam. It is the all-rounder. 500mcg of both alp and clon are definitely equivalent to a 10mg diaz. This has been obvious to me fr over 20 years, and no other authority could produce such an accurate scientific table than Heather Ashton. She is truly the Goddess of benzoiazepine.

YOU are master of your intake and the only person who feels exactly what you feel on ingestion of any of them. I have friends here who say that KSALOL is a MUCH better alprazolam than XANAX.

I agree. My pharmacist though can not access that particular brand, the best available.

Unlike the USA we do not have generic clonazepam. It is Roche's brand, Rivotril, or zip. The great benefit of that drug is that you can take a dosage equivalent to a knock-out dose of diazepam or alprazolam and still perform your daily tasks without undue sedation.

Down to you, bubba, not to figures. They are a guide, not a personal checklist. Note the absence of midazolam. Flormidal 15mg is the best sleeper I have ever had. How does it equate to 10mg diaz? Who gives a flying one? Note also that hypnotics tend to be, in figures, weaker than anxioytics. Yet they are the ones that knock you silly at bedtime.

Try writing your own. Compare the BZDs in your mind. Guaranteed you'll come up with different figures. Prof Ashton's are worked out over 30 years of treating BD dependent patients; she should know if anyone does. I repeat - you will NOT find anything more accurate than her chart.

"NEVER ingest anything unless you are 100% sure what it is."

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This chart thing is so confusing to me. All I know is to find out what works best for you, Talk to your Dr. and follow the directions. As we all know benzos are nothing to fool with, as with any medication can be deadly if not taken right. Lost my sister at 45 to a mixture of meds RX'd to her.All I know is what works for me. 1mg clonazepam X 3 per day and 1 mg Xanax PRN. Hope all works out for you.My Best, Nancie

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Question for Nancie..Or anybody who can help...

Dont know if this is a stupid question but you said, "1 mg Xanax PRN".  What does "PRN" stand for?

I'm pretty sure it means basically like 'take as needed'.  Is that right?

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Hi Paul, Yes PRN means as needed.I take it when I feel a panic attack coming on. Of course it does not mean take 1 every 10 minutes, I am allowed to take 1 every4-6 hrs as needed,Take Care, Nan