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Luckee
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That looks like

***That looks like discrimination.***

It IS discrimination...BLATANT! Someone please pass a law against those goofy copy paper signs...I can't take anymore!

My PMD has them plastered all over his office, including one that says anyone under 35 will not be treated. In contrast, it's kinda interesting that you only have to be 18 to give the government permission to put your life (and body) on the line in the military.

Problem is, pharmacies and doctors think they have the law on their side and that it's okay to do it openly as long as they are protected or can blame it on that. Except I don't think they really are protected when it gets down to it. It'll take enough negligence, suicide and discrimination/abuse cases to start turning up before this overkill-to-the-extreme, police state behavior flies back in the face of the government agencies behind it, but way too many more people are being hurt -- and in ways I don't think anyone anticipated -- than are being helped by this nonsense. I hope people are taking notes and documenting everything they are going through...treatment denial, physical/emotional trauma, expense, etc.

The term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population.

Gee...

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I don't think the DEA/FDA

I don't think the DEA/FDA will do away with oxycodone IR pills.  That is just my opinion.  I think this pharmacy has be burned a few times with the 25 and under age. htmom

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YES YES! discrimination in my book! goat was this your own pharmacy where you shop at??? ashamed!!!

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my pharmacy...it is his store..it is his rules..I am sure he is making some exceptions on the rule...he must have very good reasons for this..like my dr said if you are under 25 your body soon heals and you don"t need to take roxis for years..i went without for many many years. so can others...if they put the desire for the pills out of their head...in many many cases..it is a big circle and the problem is addiction most often..jmho

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For the first time in my life...........

Hi Everyone,

For the first time in my life, I am speechless.  I really do not even know what to say or where to begin.

(Anyone that knows me personally would say this is a first.)  Surprised

I am just really glad myself, I do not live in Florida.

(No offense Floridians, about your state.  I would not know how to react to the situation you folks are dealing with.)

Your friend in NC,

Stormeevampira aka the Verminator.

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Excuse me Goat, but did you

Excuse me Goat, but did you not happen to read my post or did you just choose to ignore it?

Pain suffered by people under 25 hurts just as bad as the same pain suffered by someone over 25.  People under 25 get cancer, TB, MS, and a host of other painful and chronic illnesses not to mention other acute painful conditions.  For many people, myself included, roxies are simply the best working pain med for me and my condition.  But I have to augment it with other types now because of all the bs.

I couldn't even use the old formula oxycontin anymore because my system had developed a toxic allergic reaction to something in the pills after a couple years of use.  Oxycodone IR works fine without any of the toxic reactions.  I'm sure there are others out there with similar stories.

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I read your post

Did you read mine? I agree with my dr that people 25 and younger can heal up. No need to start a life long life with meeds at a young age..I also said There are exceptions..whatever, not here to get in a huff just posting what I believe to be true...that way too much oxycodone ir is out there being prescribed for non chronic pain in patients who will become addicted..even though they are healed sooner then later...with exceptions ..

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Well I'll bet we would agree

Well I'll bet we would agree that it is a double edged sword that brings as much distress as it does freedom from pain.  Younger people just have to endure it longer, which I'm sure many aren't really thinking of the long road ahead of them.

As far as there being too many roxies out there, you're probably right but it could also easily be a case of the wrong people getting meds they don't need and the ones in need going without.  Think it is more of a bad distribution system based on prejudice and fear - never a good combination.

I started on these things in my mid forties.  Would hate to think of the additional time with them had I started in my twenties or earlier.  Opiates can be a life saver when all else fails, but they are not a friend.  Sooner or later, they are going to turn on you.

I just think we need to base use on actual need rather than some age bracket thing, even though it's a rougher road ahead for young people.  Just give meds to the young people that really need it but don't embarrass and ridicule them for seeking help, same as the rest of us.

It is prejudice of the first sort and can lead to suicide and running to illegal drugs to fix the problem - all caused by our current helpful system of keeping kids off of the opies.

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I live in Georgia and showed

I live in Georgia and showed this to my pharmacist, and she said there were plenty of 30's, and like a restaurant, the pharmacy actually does reserve the right to deny service to people they think they may lose their license over.   She said it was probably due to an influx of new "pill mills" in the area (Don't know if that's the case, Goat), where you have a bunch of kids without so much as a limp or shaved head (chemo) trying to fill scripts for lke 360 at a atime.

My pharmacist is one of the best in Atlanta, and always orders the type of generics I like and gave me some KVK Tech 30's to try out last time with my doctor's okay; of course, it's taken years and years to build a good relationship, but once it's there it can't be beat.  I'm sure the pharmacist at that store is trying to "spook" newcomers who are on the phone making deals while in line on their cell phones, ie "Dude I'm at the pharmacy about to get this script filled - where do you want to meet?".  They probably still service their established clents.

Anyway, I called Qualitest to see if they were going to discontinue the 30mg medication, and the woman I spoke with seemed puzzled.  She just said, "Uh...no?  Where did you hear that? "  I told her it was a rumor I heard, and she said in her sweetest Southern accent (Qualitest is HQ'ed in Alabama, surprsingly), "Well, you know rumors...I just checked with my manager and at this time we have no plans to discontinue the pill or change formulations at all."  Then the kicker - "At least you don't live in Florida!"  Sorry Goat, I'd love to move to Jax Beach but I feel like all my old dorctors and pharmacists would have to have a conference call to get me approved down there ;-)

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Any store or restauraunt has

Any store or restauraunt has the right to turn away a customer,I've just never seen signs turning them away based on age before,not to mention those Drs names there for all to see.I mean,it seems to me that some people might think that well... those are the Drs we need to go see,if you get my meaning? Sort of leading the people,who might not really need medication to know where to find it.

I agree with goat on the topic of young people taking strong opiates for long periods of time,unless of course it is a person who is really in need of CP management.By the time I was 26 I had already had 6 operations,3 diseases,been in PT many times and had to re-learn how to walk again.All of the ligaments and muscles in my feet were,including my achilles completely reconstructed,and that's a bit painful,but I only took opiates post-op and only started my CP treatment with opiates at the end of 2007.It's true that I probably suffered longer than I should have,but I found ways to deal and none of them were illegal.

I've heard people on the forums many times mention that "This would not be happening if we were a 35,40,45,etc. yr old person." (this was happening to),and I can tell you that this is not always true either. Regardless of age,we 40 & 50 yr old people have to go through just as many trials,tests,and other situations as a young patient (and probably have-thank you ;) ,and because I am older I am not going to be made to feel as if somehow or in some way I have something to feel ashamed of if infact something does come easier at this time in my life,because at one time I was 20 something too.

CP is different than pain,and people of any age who suffer from CP deserve proper treatment.I'm just not sure that some people even know the difference.